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> <channel><title>Comments on: The Catch 22 of Academic Publishing</title> <atom:link href="http://www.husdal.com/2009/05/27/the-catch-22-of-academic-publishing/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.husdal.com/2009/05/27/the-catch-22-of-academic-publishing/</link> <description>Journal articles and papers, books and book chapters, research reports and whitepapers, blogs and websites</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:44:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=</generator> <item><title>By: Jan Husdal</title><link>http://www.husdal.com/2009/05/27/the-catch-22-of-academic-publishing/#comment-6540</link> <dc:creator>Jan Husdal</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 23:09:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://husdal.com/?p=3207#comment-6540</guid> <description>Hello David,
I was wondering when you would turn up here…and thank you for an insightful comment.
Yes, you may be right that the average quality of papers doesn’t differ too much from paper to paper, as least as far as I have seen. And being “hot” or “cold” definitely matters, and sometimes luck plays a role, too: I still remember during the early days of the war in Afghanistan, soon after 9/11, when the only expert on Afghanistan CNN could come up with was some History professor who had studied the British invasion in the 19th century…I’m sure he never thought he ever would be on prime time TV given his obscure field.
As to PLoS ONE, that sounds like a well thought-out attitude. If it is technically sound, the public IS the best judge. If it used, it is good; if not, it will soon be forgotten.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello David,<br
/> I was wondering when you would turn up here…and thank you for an insightful comment.</p><p>Yes, you may be right that the average quality of papers doesn’t differ too much from paper to paper, as least as far as I have seen. And being “hot” or “cold” definitely matters, and sometimes luck plays a role, too: I still remember during the early days of the war in Afghanistan, soon after 9/11, when the only expert on Afghanistan CNN could come up with was some History professor who had studied the British invasion in the 19th century…I’m sure he never thought he ever would be on prime time TV given his obscure field.</p><p>As to PLoS ONE, that sounds like a well thought-out attitude. If it is technically sound, the public IS the best judge. If it used, it is good; if not, it will soon be forgotten.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David Levinson</title><link>http://www.husdal.com/2009/05/27/the-catch-22-of-academic-publishing/#comment-975</link> <dc:creator>David Levinson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 21:31:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://husdal.com/?p=3207#comment-975</guid> <description>ISI and the like are pseudo-metrics. Journals have to have them, but everyone is fooling themselves to believe that they indicate anything real.
Quality cannot be directly assessed numerically by citations, the best you can hope is that it is accepted by a peer-reviewed journal (which hopefully means the reviewers did not see any obvious flaws). My sense is that for most academic peer-reviewed  journals in transportation and planning, the average quality of papers does not differ too much, but higher ranked journals may attract slightly more original work (and more submissions overall). Higher ranked journals probably have a somewhat higher rejection rate as well, but this is highly stochastic process, depending on the luck of the draw and randomness of reviewers, with a slight bias to accepting better papers and rejecting bad papers.
Utility may have a hope being assessed by citations, but really it just depends on if you are in a hot field or sub-field, and who you are (early papers in a particular academic branch will be cited, as will papers by famous people and editors and people likely to be reviewers).
At any rate, I like the philosophy of PLOS One
&quot;Rigorous Peer-Review
Too often a journal&#039;s decision to publish a paper is dominated by what the Editor/s think is interesting and will gain greater readership — both of which are subjective judgments and lead to decisions which are frustrating and delay the publication of your work. PLoS ONE will rigorously peer-review your submissions and publish all papers that are judged to be technically sound. Judgments about the importance of any particular paper are then made after publication by the readership (who are the most qualified to determine what is of interest to them).&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ISI and the like are pseudo-metrics. Journals have to have them, but everyone is fooling themselves to believe that they indicate anything real.</p><p>Quality cannot be directly assessed numerically by citations, the best you can hope is that it is accepted by a peer-reviewed journal (which hopefully means the reviewers did not see any obvious flaws). My sense is that for most academic peer-reviewed  journals in transportation and planning, the average quality of papers does not differ too much, but higher ranked journals may attract slightly more original work (and more submissions overall). Higher ranked journals probably have a somewhat higher rejection rate as well, but this is highly stochastic process, depending on the luck of the draw and randomness of reviewers, with a slight bias to accepting better papers and rejecting bad papers.</p><p>Utility may have a hope being assessed by citations, but really it just depends on if you are in a hot field or sub-field, and who you are (early papers in a particular academic branch will be cited, as will papers by famous people and editors and people likely to be reviewers).</p><p>At any rate, I like the philosophy of PLOS One<br
/> &#8220;Rigorous Peer-Review<br
/> Too often a journal&#8217;s decision to publish a paper is dominated by what the Editor/s think is interesting and will gain greater readership — both of which are subjective judgments and lead to decisions which are frustrating and delay the publication of your work. PLoS ONE will rigorously peer-review your submissions and publish all papers that are judged to be technically sound. Judgments about the importance of any particular paper are then made after publication by the readership (who are the most qualified to determine what is of interest to them).&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jan Husdal</title><link>http://www.husdal.com/2009/05/27/the-catch-22-of-academic-publishing/#comment-6541</link> <dc:creator>Jan Husdal</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 08:11:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://husdal.com/?p=3207#comment-6541</guid> <description>Thanks! I&#039;m glad you enjoyed it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jan Husdal</title><link>http://www.husdal.com/2009/05/27/the-catch-22-of-academic-publishing/#comment-6543</link> <dc:creator>Jan Husdal</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 08:01:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://husdal.com/?p=3207#comment-6543</guid> <description>You may be on to something here. There&#039;s always some &quot;in&quot;-crowd somewhere that seems to be getting all the good stuff, while most of us have to settle for scraping the breadcrumbs of their leftovers.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may be on to something here. There&#8217;s always some &#8220;in&#8221;-crowd somewhere that seems to be getting all the good stuff, while most of us have to settle for scraping the breadcrumbs of their leftovers.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jan Husdal</title><link>http://www.husdal.com/2009/05/27/the-catch-22-of-academic-publishing/#comment-1417</link> <dc:creator>Jan Husdal</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 04:44:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://husdal.com/?p=3207#comment-1417</guid> <description>Kuhn…the grand master of paradigms…you have a point here. Maybe we need a shift in paradigms as to the value of academic publishing?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kuhn…the grand master of paradigms…you have a point here. Maybe we need a shift in paradigms as to the value of academic publishing?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Peter Charlot</title><link>http://www.husdal.com/2009/05/27/the-catch-22-of-academic-publishing/#comment-973</link> <dc:creator>Peter Charlot</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 04:27:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://husdal.com/?p=3207#comment-973</guid> <description>Thomas Kuhn (1922 - 1996) is the grand master of this insight.  His, &quot;The Structure of Scientific Revolutions&quot; goes into great detail on just how science is manufactured.  My own insight is that neuroscientists reflect the process they are looking for.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas Kuhn (1922 &#8211; 1996) is the grand master of this insight.  His, &#8220;The Structure of Scientific Revolutions&#8221; goes into great detail on just how science is manufactured.  My own insight is that neuroscientists reflect the process they are looking for.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Successful Researcher: How to Become One</title><link>http://www.husdal.com/2009/05/27/the-catch-22-of-academic-publishing/#comment-972</link> <dc:creator>Successful Researcher: How to Become One</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 23:54:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://husdal.com/?p=3207#comment-972</guid> <description>Great post! I linked to it in my paper writing &lt;a href=&quot;http://aclinks.wordpress.com/2009/04/29/how-to-write-a-really-good-research-paper/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tips&lt;/a&gt;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! I linked to it in my paper writing <a
href="http://aclinks.wordpress.com/2009/04/29/how-to-write-a-really-good-research-paper/" rel="nofollow">tips</a>.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: How to Write a Really Good Research Paper &#171; Successful Researcher</title><link>http://www.husdal.com/2009/05/27/the-catch-22-of-academic-publishing/#comment-971</link> <dc:creator>How to Write a Really Good Research Paper &#171; Successful Researcher</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 23:23:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://husdal.com/?p=3207#comment-971</guid> <description>[...] caveats of peer review and possible danger of scooping (with focus on the life sciences), and this post on the catch 22 of publishing in the top [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] caveats of peer review and possible danger of scooping (with focus on the life sciences), and this post on the catch 22 of publishing in the top [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Michael Scott Long</title><link>http://www.husdal.com/2009/05/27/the-catch-22-of-academic-publishing/#comment-970</link> <dc:creator>Michael Scott Long</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 22:16:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://husdal.com/?p=3207#comment-970</guid> <description>The general &quot;catch 22&quot; is also seen in research funding, issuing of awards, job promotions, and throughout life in general, presumably as a consequence of egos and malicious competition.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The general &#8220;catch 22&#8243; is also seen in research funding, issuing of awards, job promotions, and throughout life in general, presumably as a consequence of egos and malicious competition.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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